There would never be a list of names of those who,
themselves, took part in the assassination of JFK. Such Top Level assassinations
are done by trained and controlled professionals who are trained and hired
for the job. Most likely they were not Americans, and were living in a foreign country.
This is professional work and is not done by such "actors" as Oswald.
The latter are the cover story.
Re: "Jolly" West. When I first went to the Pentagon after returning from Japan during
the Korean War, he was in the same office I was assigned to... just until my office
was remodeled, He was quite a character.
I know that his name has been linked with that of Patty Hearst.
However that was a "cover story" when her father was in the process of
bidding for the ownership of the Washington STAR newspaper.
The day the bids were scheduled to be opened, was the same day Patty
was "kidnapped on the West Coast" and her father did not make another
bid for that newspaper. Patty, was ''concealed" in a gang of renegades.
West entered the story later.
I have heard recently that both Dr West and David Belin have died recently.
Both wore quite notorious. Your contact is a reminder of the old-days
in the Pentagon, etc.)
L. Fletcher Prouty
Colonel, USAF (Ret'd)
TO: Loredana Akhtar via
I am pleased to have your letter. You are one of the few who have accepted the facts of the Kennedy assassination that I wrote for Oliver Stone. Such murders are not planned and carried out by local tramps. They are professional jobs.
In order for you to read more about this will you please send a mailing address to: firstname.lastname@example.org. He will get in touch with me. I have written two books that you will enjoy, "THE SECRET TEAM" AND "JFK, THE CIA, VIETNAM and the PLOT to ASSASSINATE JOHN F. KENNEDY. " Or you may order my CD ROM that has both books and countless other articles. They all are written from my own experience from the days of the Korean War to the present.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Colonel, USAF (Ret'd)
From Tom Moor - Jan 14th 1999
One question I wanted to ask Col. Prouty.
That is: of the many drafts of NSAM 273, the most incriminating by far is the first draft.
1) First of all it is dated 11/21/63, the eve of Kennedy's death
2) Secondly it reverses US policy on withdrawal from Vietnam set forward in NSAM 263
3) And Finally it contains the fascist directive that "It is of the highest importance that the United States government avoid either the appearance or reality of public recrimination from one part of it against the other..."
Obviously, this particular draft of 273 constitutes a smoking gun linking Kennedy's assassination with the Vietnam war. I have Fletcher's copy on his disk, but my question is, can it be found anywhere else? Critics, like Chomsky say that there are only post-assassination drafts of this document (and those drafts do not contain the statement about US govt recriminations). Is this first draft on file somewhere in the National Archives as a matter of record?
Is there someone else out there besides Col Prouty who still has their copy and will vouch for it? If so, than it could not be so casually dismissed by Prouty's critics. I would really appreciate a response to this question, which has been troubling me for some time.
Reply to TOM MOOR:
Thanks for your good letter dated Jan 14th. It is a
valuable letter, and I shall be writing more about it for you
and for others. Many of us have been attacked for things we
have written on the subject of NSAM 273 and related matters.
For the present, I wish to refer you to a section of my hook
"JFK, the CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy."
I urge you to read Chapters Eighteen and Nineteen.
In the meantime meantime I am doing some related research that
I will make available later. I have already found one important
bit of work. The Government has withdrawn the sourcebook that I
used for my work along with hundreds of others. The original is
"Foreign Relations of the United States, 1961-1963 Volume IV,
"Vietnam August-December 1963" with a new, and corrupted one,
dated 1991. Unfortunately I have loaned my original to a writer
friend and shall not be able to may extracts from it until I get it back.
This crafty deal is like the one they have played with the "Pentagon
Papers." They are not reliable at all. This is why the critics can
write anything they want and blame me, or Stone, etc. for our "errors."
L. Fletcher Prouty
b. From "sparrows" Jan 8, 1999
Here is some response to your questions. I'm pleased to read that you are working on a book. That is the way to learn the subject. May I suggest you read one, or both of my books: "THE SECRET TEAM", "JFK, the CIA, VIETNAM and the PLOT TO ASSASSINATE John F. Kennedy" or get my CD ROM that includes both booth and more on the subject.
As with most of what happened on and around Dealey Plaza on Nov 22, 1962 I believe very little of it. That scenario was performed to cover the reel culprits and their methods. For example, you may know that NIXON was meeting with Pepsi Cola officials at the very time of the murder….meeting in DALLAS.
LBJ was required to play a role that had never been played before. A President and a Vice-President are prohibited from riding, or marching in a processional together. I have worked with the Presidential Protection units and I know that. Then why was LBJ permitted to be in the parade?
Pepsi Cola may have been "one of the powers" as you say; but we must not forget that our country is made up of many powers who team up together for many things. They maintain that capability...but usually employ foreigners for the job.
You have used a good expression: "Too many people were BANKING on winning." They did. They work together.
"The Secret Service played a serious role operationally." Not quite right...they played a serious role "as Actors." I have worked with them in other countries. It's a demanding job…in the least. They must always be right; but DALLAS???
The autopsy and X-Ray photos may have been "authentic" but they were used falsely as cover-up of the real thing;
Remember: check with my CD ROM it contains a lot of things you may never have heard. Also get the new book "Assassination Science." It's the work of serious doctors, and pro's.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Date: Sat,9 Jan' 99
Subject: Zapruder film alteration
McKenna: Your work is good. Before I add anything I would like to ask if you have seen the new book, "ASSASSINATION SCIENCE"? It is good. I'd like to mention p 207 where they mention the Workshop participants in the Lancer Conference at Dallas, 21-23 Nov,1996: David Mantik, - David Lifton, Jack White, Chuck Marler, Noel Twyman, Ron Kepler, Roy Schaeffer,, and Robert Morningstar with contributions by Martin Shackelford, Art Snyder and and Sherry Gutierrez, I know a few of them. It is a good list.
The book is good too, because it deals with a lot of experts and a lot of special subjects. As you may know, I do not put one inch of credence on any part of the assassination that deals with the customary routine of Dealey Plaza, Oswald, the Warren Commission, etc.
The assassination had to have been done in the customary manner employed by powerful groups who have their own assassins and the power to control events. If you have my CD ROM it covers the whole story including my two books.
Thanks for your note.
L. Fletcher Prouty
I am not surprised by your reaction to reading about our good old "VP" Lyndon B. Johnson. It happens that during many years of my assignment in the Pentagon LBJ's secretary was the wife of an officer who had been stationed in Tokyo with us. Then back in Washington, she became LBJ's secretary. With that proximity to the great man, I must say that I concur with your vary version of the guy; but at the same time I am quite positive that he was not the man who assassinated JFK.
May I suggest that you look in my book, "JFK, the CIA, Vietnam and the plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy" It explains my idea of the LBJ's role. If you don't have the book you can get it via the website, or you can get on our new CD-ROM.
To John Urban,
Your phrase, "The Masters make the rules, " is a good one. Then you add, "what motivated the military and government arrangers of his murder?''
You say you have read my book, and may have scanned my CD-ROM, the answers are there.
Oliver Stone's "JFK" where a group of businessmen, etc. at their CLUB were discussing JFK and how that hated him as President. I have seen such scenes in real life, and that's why I got it into the script. It is my belief, as a result of considerable experience that this is the way it all began as a plot, and as far back as the realization that NIXON had not been elected President in 1960. Then such edicts, from JFK, as NSAM 263 put the whole game into play.
Certain military and government types may have played a role. Many would have been willing; but that's not their job. The true system works differently.
Your next paragraph makes a lot of sense; but a clean and effective job does not use the role players from USA resources. The true assassins are from an over-seas resource, and they return there immediately. This "WARREN COMMISSION" was and is 100% staged. Then the money, year after year, goes to the accounts of the true perpetrators as we have seen for more than 30 years.
I knew both Dulles brothers officially and well, and Lansdale even better. I only knew Hoover from casual meetings. They carried out important roles assigned by the actual planners and operators. Everyone get paid, or related benefits. After all, you and I got to work everyday...or have done so...and our salary was what we got. It is part of the functions of such jobs. However, in his hook "THE KENNEDY WOMEN" Lawrence Leamer writes (Page 584) "HOOVER HATED KENNEDY,"
On this subject I will say as I have before in connection with Ed Lansdale that he was accustomed to doing his job along with whatever rewards it may have raised for him. But, Lansdale knew, just as I knew, that there are cadres of "assassins" skilled in their work who perform their jobs as ordered. These units are not in the USA.
With reference to Lansdale, keep in mind that he ways the one who caused the removal more than one million North Vietnamese to the South, and it is that mass of homeless people who became what we called the Diet Cong This was his type of specialty; as he had proved in the Philippines with what became known as the HUKS.
The Dulles brothers were able and interesting. I recall that during one of my visits to Allen Dulles' home that he explained that he and his brother actually were Lawyers...not Statesmen; and that it was their specialty to carry out the orders of others.
Keep in mind that this idea- of "corruptness" that you talk about has to do with such things as the Southeast Asia drug trade that had its US relationship as far back as WW II when we had troops marching across Burma to Southeast Asia all with fi full division of Chinese, many of whom were Drug masters. This grew into one of the major parts of the current drug business in this country. Those military involved...such as the HAND of the NUGAN-HAND Bank made plenty of money. As I recall he was under 30 and a low ranking CIA civilian until he was placed with the Australian named Nugan. That's another story, on the CD-ROM.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Response to E-mail from John Urban, Nov 26, 1998
John, I have your letter about "War Profits'' and related topics. First of all, I have written much about that in my books "The Secret Team" and "JFK, the CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy." It is the scenes of the latter book and the Oliver Stone movie where I have it in plain language. .
You may recall the scene where the big businessmen are discussing- this very subject, Kennedy signed an NSAM 263 that said, among other things that he would have 1,000 soldiers home by Christmas of 1963." And "All Americans will be out of Vietnam by the end of 1965
I have discussed that widely in the books;-with even more in the new CD-ROM. If the war had been ended by 1965 it would have produced a nominal sum. As it was we spent about $551 billion on the Vietnam War. The military and government people collected their salaries.
The businessmen collected that money. This is why Kennedy died.
- My books and all go into this in detail. I urge you to write me after you have had the time to read them, or the CD.
Fortunate to have fine weather. I can get out and walk, and even did
some yard work today. In between I spent quite a while getting rid of old
papers and books. it's a project. Here are answers for e-mail items
today as noted above.
Jim Wolf: My two CIA books, "The Secret Team" and "JFK,the CIA, Vietnam and
the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy both have sections on CAMELOT and MONGOOSE.
There is a chapter in "JFK..." p.140, etc on CAMELOT.
Also you will find MONGOOSE at p 160 in the same book
where it makes reference to Lansdale, etc.
Of course, with this much in the books, you will find that the
CD-ROM has much more and broader subjects. Both books are in the
CD-ROM completely plus 174 articles, etc. ~
L. Fletcher Prouty
Chad Poston: You are correct about Bush and the CIA. However,
I believe you would find many more who worked for the CIA then and who are still around.
All of us have been very careful about revealing those names and their work.
CIA contacts who are involved in assassinations are very carefully covered...then and now.
My CD-ROM will provide general information, but no specifics.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Re: Bernt Balchen,
"I am pleased with your note of 16 Nov 98. As a pilot for most of my life I have collected quite a record of the best of my associates, I can not recall that I met or knew Bernt; but am I not right in recollecting that he flew with Adm.Byrd and some of his missions
I have flown over Arctic routes, and I have landed at the South Pole where the altimeter read 10,800 feet elevation when we had landed on the snow and ice there. What a surprise. I never had heard that there is that much ice on top of that continent.
I met Adm Byrd after had had made some Arctic flight back in the 30's. You mention that Bernt and your father were Foresters. That was my father's life long business. If I had not been caught up in WWII, I might well have been one,
Well that is all I can recall, and it is a pleasure to hear from you.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Nov 23, 1998
L. C. Sheppard, 5/0CT/98
So much has been "pinned" on Oswald that we are asked to believe in anything. You ask about Oswald's connection with the Gary Powers U-2 flight over the USSR.
Oswald, to the best of my knowledge, was a US Marine and wits assig ~ Amour military unit supporting the CIA at Atsugi...a Japanese WW II airport. Upon request from the CiA ~ was asked to see that a certain number of military men were assigned to that base to support the agency. I believe we had 8 there and that he was one of them. (I was at Atsugi several times in the days immediately before and after the Japanese surrender on 2SEP45; so I know the base .then and later...but I did not know the men there then.
One day a U-2 coming back from a mission in Asia made a bad lending near the Atsugi base. The damage was slight; so it was sent black to the Lockheed factory for repairs. For some reason.~we can guess what...when It was being repaired the very special U-2 high-altitude camera was removed..,to preserve its secrecy. Later we learned that this "re-built" U-2 was the same one that Gary Powers was flying over the USSR, and that when the Soviets dismantled it after its landing they did not realize that it did not have this special camera on board. Sorta proved that "someone" knew that that certain U-2 was going to be "shot down" over the USSR
This is a long and complicated story. Get my new CD ROM and read the whole things plus countless other articles.
Thanks for your note.
L, Fletcher Prouty
To: Anita Sands
Anita: You paid me the compliment...I believe...of suggesting I should join Chomsky, Nader and Moore and run for President. On top of the fact that I am too old to play that game, I just could not bring myself to support one of your choices. You should see,..or have you already, some of the things Chomsky has written about me.
We used to go to meetings together, etc. but his tongue got the best of himself.
On the other hand I like Nader and do not know Michael Moore.
Thanks for your support. Take a look at my new, and
heavily packed CD ROM and you can make up your own mind.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Burt Wilson, 05/Oct/98
You could not have asked me about a more interesting and able underground
worker than JIM MCCORD. I knew him well. We did not work closely together
because he was deep CIA, and I was deep military; but we both worked where
the two came together, and it was men 1ike him who made things work out.
He was a very close associate and friend of Dick Helms, among others.
I. suggest you get this book, "A PIECE OF TAPE", self-published and
written by Jim via Washington Media Services Inc in 1974' . .
Jim was right, if they jumped on him "the trees would fall".
He knew all the people, and all the "business."
I'm quite sure that he did not mean to include the "Assassination Crowd'
because it is my experienced belief that they came from a different source.
But he did know most of the Agency crowd on the "operational side of the house."
Thanks for your note:
L. Fletcher Prouty
Bob Vernon, 5/Oct/98
You have asked about a cover group in the 60's named MARBISI.
Spelled ~ right or wrong, I never heard of it. I corresponded regularly
with Jim Garrison and have his book; but I have no. recollection of that MARBISI an a cover word, and in the 60's --I had most of them. I don't know Garrisons source for that.
It must have been other than my area of work, i.e. the Secret Team"
L. Fletcher Prouty
L.C. Sheppard, 5/Oct/981998
You ask about Oswald's connection with the Gary Powers U-2 flight. There is a long connection; but it is not pertinent in that context. Oswald was assigned to the ATSUGI Air Base in Japan where certain U-2 flights were operated. I doubt that his duties there had anything to do with the U-2. That was a different organization.
The "Powers U-2" was brought down by action taken at its base either in Turkey or Pakistan by U-2 people. It was just too slick. You are quite right to believe that the flights you mention were purposely brought down for political reasons.
I would say that you are correct with your related assumptions. ~ ~
L. Fletcher Prouty
Reply to Greg Burnham
This is the response to the good paper we have received from Greg Burnham on the subject of Marine Colonel Jack Hawkins,
and other special operations matters
TO: Gregory Burnham:
You ask about Col. Jack Hawkins. I certainly do remember him mostly from the Bay of Pigs days. I have looked in a 1963 Pentagon telephone book and find him listed for that year. He was the tactical man we got from the Marines to plan the landing of the Anti-Castro unit and train them. I knew that he was against the project, as many of us were for purely tactical reasons. These Cubans in the USA were not military trained and the restrictions placed upon the project were too severe.
Actually Bissell's comment to Hawkins about "air support ready to strike, if needed" was accurate. We had provided the rebels with 16 B-26's that I had put through a transition project in Arizona. They had 8 50 Cal. machine guns in each nose. (With this is mind,) Castro had only 10 capable combat aircraft Kennedy ordered them all to be destroyed before the landing. On Sat., a.m., May 15th they were attacked and all of 7 were destroyed. We scoured Cuba with U-2 reconnaisance and found that three jets that Castro had left were all that he had; but these armed jets could easily shoot down the B-26's. Therefore Kennedy made it very clear on May 16th that the landing could not take place until the Rebel's B-26's had totally destroyed the last three Castro jets...ON THE GROUND. (If this had been done, as ordered by the President then the 16 bombers could have supported the invasion and the Cuban rebels would have had a more than even chance to beat Castro's ground troops and their equipment by bombardment.
Bissell had not lied to JFK; but McGeorge Bundy called Gen. Cabell, then Deputy Director of the CIA and told him that the bombing must not take place until the invaders had landed at the Bay of Pigs. It was about 3:30 am then and Cabell was having trouble locating Rusk to get his opinion. Of all things, Allen Dulles was out of the country.
That is the basic mistake. I won't carry it further here. All of the details are in my book "The Secret Team" and in my new CD-ROM. They will tell you the rest of the story. I can send you the CD if you want ($34.95)
You have printed an interesting line: "there was a high motivation for the Agency to compromise JFK politically." The story is more than that. In late Dec. 1959, when Castro and his rebels were marching into Havana, a group of us in the Special Ops business were ordered into an office. There we were told that if Castro did take over Havana we were going to be ordered to a rebel force. Recall this was under Eisenhower and Nixon.
Well no call came and after midnight when we had the office TV on and were watching the "New Years" celebrations we were told we could go home. Castro was the new ruler of Cuba. Later in the spring of 1960, Castro came to New York City to speak at the United Nations. Following that speech, he went to Washington and had a meeting with Nixon. After that meeting, Nixon commented with reporters saying, more or less, that if Castro was not a Communist he was close to it. That set the tone for the Eisenhower people to order the CIA to prepare to over-throw his Government.
A little later a team from the CIA came to my office in the Pentagon (At that time I was the Special Operations officer there for the Air Force). They asked me if we had an airfield that could be used for a base to train aircrews and to get aircraft for them for a Cuban anti-Castro rebel group. This started it all.
During this period summer of 1960, we were coming up on a presidential election time and JFK nominated by the Democrats. The Republicans were certain that they would win; so they began to put all the new, and huge appropriations into the next year for "President" Nixon; but in a surprise he was not elected and I never saw such emotional feelings as then. I was then working in the office of the Secretary of Defense, in the Office of Special Operations. In the halls of the Pentagon you could hear the dislike of the new President; and the realization of the fact that JFK had inherited billions of dollars of procurement money for high cost items such and the $6 or $7 billion dollar TFX aircraft buy. In one tactical move the Republicans changed the Anti-Castro plans from small over-the-beach and air drop tactics to a major invasion. In no time they had built up a 3,000 man force that had to be trained and equipped, and dumped it all in JFK's lap.
They did not realize that JFK already knew the Anti-Castro leaders who had been guests of the Kennedy's at their big Florida resort home. One day I was sent to the Senate Office building to a certain room number to pick up four men and have them driven to the Pentagon and to the Secretary of Defense, Gates.
The office turned out to be Senator Kennedy's office and the four men were the leaders of the Cuban Exile group: Artime, Varona, Mendonca and one more. Here it was only early summer of 1959, and JFK had yet be nominated for the Presidency by the Democrats, and he was entertaining them in his family's winter home in West Palm Beach and in his Senate office building. People did know how well JFK knew them.
The most influential debate he had before the election with Nixon was the third, when they debated the Cuban Problem. Kennedy just made Nixon look ridiculous; and that debate alone perhaps won for JFK his narrow managing in the election.
Shortly after the election a team of top level CIA officials came to my office and requested that I get base facilities for at least 3,000 Cuban exiles, and enough aircraft for them. They built the Cuban force immediately by those numbers and then with Kennedy's inauguration they dumped it all in his lap.
By April 1961 the invasion plan had been worked out under the leadership of Jack Hawkins. It was all predicated on the fact that the Invasion Force would destroy all of Castro's aircraft BEFORE the invasion took place. This was the plan that was briefed to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, approved by them and taken to Kennedy. Kennedy said little about it except on Sunday, April 17th he finally approved the invasion with the strict proviso that all of Castro's jets would be destroyed; or the invasion force would not be landed on the beach. We all understood that.
For some reason, at 9:30PM McGeorge Bundy called Gen. Cabell, Deputy Director of the CIA and told him that the invasion was off until the men were on the beach. B-26 invasion planes that had been put on stand-by in Nicaragua were not to be released until dawn. This of course was against Kennedy's orders, because the three jets that Castro had could easily destroy them.
Gen. Cabell left the office in an attempt to locate Sec. of State Rusk. He knew that order had to be changed. While he was doing that the hours passed, and I got a telephone call from the air commander in Nicaragua who was all upset. He knew if the B-26's were not there by dawn the jets would take off and down them. I could hear the B-26 engines running in the background. I made many calls around Washington to get help with this essential problem. As the clock kept running it became too late for the B-26's to arrive before dawn while the T-33 jets were on the ground. Meanwhile the troops were landing at the Bay of Pigs. The whole thing was a disaster...and it was not Kennedy's fault. The last order he had given that day was "The B-26's must destroy the jets before they take off or the invasion must be cancelled," This was the military approved plan and Kennedy's orders.
You are correct also about the Power's U-2. That flight was made to fail by a shortage of the proper fuel. The engine stopped when Powers was about one half way to his goal in Norway. He did not use his parachute, because he could fly the plane to the ground. That also caused the important Paris Conference on May 1, 1960 that had been planned between Eisenhower and Khrushchev to be cancelled
As you may know, the Korean War and the Vietnam War were both planned at the Teheran Conference in Oct 1943. When the Japanese surrendered on Sept 2, 1945 the enormous supply of equipment and arms -stockpiled for 500,000 men, were divided in half and one half was sent to Korea and the other half to Vietnam. In later years both were used in wars in which the U.S. was heavily involved and both Presidents were blamed for them. This created especially opposition against Kennedy in the year 1963, and led to his death,
Kennedy had already issued Presidential Directives during Oct 1963 to the effect that 1000 American personnel would be out of Vietnam by Christmas 1963, and that all American personnel would be out of Vietnam by the end of 1965. This was the final action that caused his assassination by the powers that wanted to continue the costly, and profitable... to them... warfare in Vietnam.
You are correct about the Bay of Pigs landing disaster, except for the details that the Cuban rebels were equipped with armed B-26 's; and if used while Castro's jets were still on the ground on the morning o April 18th that would easily been destroyed. Then the landing force would have had, little or no real opposition and they would have defeated Castro.
The JCS and Kennedy had both ordered that if the jets were not destroyed there would be no invasion. Kennedy had ordered that no "active duty USA aircraft would be used in that invasion". This was a firm order that we all understood. You are correct that Kennedy's NSAM #263 would have had us out of Vietnam for sure. I was one of its writers. I know how determined he was, but that was Oct 11,1963. Kennedy was dead on Nov 22, 1963.
We all can see the connection.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Reply to the "Caves"
It always interests me when I get a note from New Zealand. As I have written
so many times, I was in Christchurch when the papers came out with the news of the
Kennedy death. I fully believe that anyone can solve that assassination by reading
every word of the story as carried in the Christchurch STAR with its first stories.
Much of what they printed had to have been written for world-wide circulation, and
written BEFORE the shooting. Just read it very carefully. As soon as I got back to
Washington I went to our LIBRARY OF CONGRESS where they have papers of all dates and
from all around the world. Unless what they all printed had not been written beforehand
they would not have had half the story they did have, and it was all structured...except
for those few items that were flashed from Dallas by the reporters on the scene.
Where would anyone have gotten that fresh, business-suit photo of Oswald so quickly
unless he had access to some earlier file. How could any papers, Christchurch or
otherwise have done that? And where did they get the flash "Three bursts of automatic
weapons were fired. "Read any foreign paper you wish...carefully, and the case is solved.
As soon as I got back to Washington and could compare the STAR with Washington papers
and others I could see the whole case. Then when I found other data that had been
falsely crafted here in the states during the next days, months and years I could
see how thoroughly some power group had been, and still is in control.
If you haven't
seen my books or CD-ROM you have missed the whole story as it was structured by the
operators under control of the "Power Elite." For one example, Nixon and his
"Power Elite" supporters were fit to be tied when Kennedy beat them for the Presidency
in Nov 1960. That is precisely where the assassination planning...along with other
such opposition began. I was right there working for the Secretary of Defense, Gates,
then. I knew them all and I heard them express their views about Kennedy often.
It was generally along the lines of "That God Damn Kennedy has got to go' Finally
they did it, and things have been run that way since. It was a pleasure to work
with Oliver Stone, Garrison and all the rest on that movie, It's just too bad
that I had a heart operation just before the first day I met Stone. This cut me
out of most of the early weeks work...except for my books.
b) Question from Fohne: You have asked about the "Tramps." Like so
much of the Kennedy assassination scene they are simply a part of the pre-written script.
Who they are does not mean a things except they were used as actors on the
Dealey Plaza stage. They are nobodies otherwise. Just look at good photos
of them and of the stage-play police with them and you'll see that their
whole game was played out on a stage. What really matters is that all
of these "acts" and "Actors" had been worked out beforehand. That, murder
had been planned since Nov 1960 when JFK so narrowly won that election
over the "Power Elite's boy Nixon. From that day on they were out to get
Kennedy and his entire team. Look at things seriously and realistically.
Here is a response to the FAX from Thomas Forehand Jr. on the subject of President Roosevelt's murder.
The newspaper supplement PARADE, dated Feb. 9, 1986 carries an article written by Elliott Roosevelt entitled "Why Stalin Never Forgave Eleanor Roosevelt."
This two-page article ends with the lines:
Elliot visited Stalin as a reporter for PARADE. He had met Stalin during the Teheran Conference of Nov.-Dec. 1943, and in 1946 Gardner Cowles of LOOK sent Elliott to Moscow to interview him.
I cite this entire historical episode in my book "THE SECRET TEAM." The conference ended with Stalin telling him that "The Churchill Gang" had killed his father.
I had met Elliot during the Teheran Conference in 1943 when I flew the Chinese delegation there. See my book for the details. If you do not have THE SECRET TEAM available contact me. I still have a few available ,
I am enclosing the facts as I know them. I had flown dignitaries from Cario, and then was asked to fly the Chinese delegation to Teheran.
WHO KILLED PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT?
The World War II Cairo conference between President Roosevelt, Prime Minister Churchill and Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek ended on Oct 26, 1943. That evening I was given orders to fly a group of participants From Cairo to Tehran. Up to that time, I had not been aware that there was going to be a Big Four meeting of the Super-Powers in Tehran.
As I went out to the plane that morning to get it ready to go, two limousines came frown the city. They were T.V. Soong's Chinese delegates. I flew them to Tehran that day.
En route, I stopped at Habbaniyah in Iraq for refueling; and while on the ground an Air Force B-25 arrived with an old friend of mine flying it, and with L. Col. Elliott Roosevelt, the President's son, I introduced him and: Roosevelt to the Chinese, and vice versa.
I don't know whether any of you have ever realized this, but years later the fact that Elliott Roosevelt had gone to the Tehran conference and brought up one of the most amazing untold facts in our history. I can only imagine why more has not been written about it.
Because Elliott had met Stalin in Tehran with his father in 1943, in late 1946, Gardner Cowles, publisher Magazine asked him to go to Moscow to interview Stalin.
Roosevelt accepted this offer and did interview Stalin there. At the end of a long interview, he turned to the Generalissimo and asked one more question, "Why is it that my mother has never been permitted to visit Moscow even though she has made three very formal applications one for the trip?"
Stalin glared at Elliott and said' ''You don't know why?"
Elliott replied, "No! "
Quickly, Stalin responded, "Don't you know who killed your father?"
Stalin, rising from his chair, continued, "Well, I'll tell you why I have not invited her here. As soon as your father died, I asked my ambassador in Washington to go immediately to Georgia with a request to view the body." Stalin believed that if Gromyko saw the body he could confirm that the cerebral hemorrhage that had caused his death had caused extensive discoloration and distortion.
Elliott responded, that he knew nothing about that and then
Stalin said, "Your mother refused to permit the lid of the coffin to be opened so that my ambassador could see the body." Adding, "I sent him there three times trying to impress upon your mother that it was very important for him to view the President's body. She never accepted that. I have never forgiven her."
This forced Elliott to ask this last question, "...but why?"
Stalin took a few steps around the office, and almost in a rage roared, "They poisoned your father, of course, just as they have tried repeatedly to poison me."
"They, who are they?" Elliott asked.
"The Churchill gang Stalin roared, "They poisoned your father, and they continue to try o poison me...the Churchill gang!"
I had heard, while in Tehran, that Roosevelt and Churchill had had a strenuous argument in front of Stalin and Chiang during the conference on the subject of the decolonialization of South East Asia. I have read it in a government publication of the time. Then, this account of Elliott's visit to Moscow in l946 was written and signed by him and appeared in the February 9, l986 issue of the nationwide Sunday Supplement magazine "PARADE."
We all know that there are amazing stories that can not be found in the history books. That is what I am saying here. Most students have not been able to learn that Chiang Kai-Shek was a member of this Four power Conference in Tehran. But, I was there. I had flown the Chinese delegates there from Cairo, and I have read it in a Congressional Committee Report, "The U.S. Government and the Vietnam War" Part 1 1945-61" by the U.S. Government Printing Office, 1984.
Both sources have been in the public domain for mare than 10 years. Why haven't we seen them, on campus, in the History books and in classes?
In l953, In a toast before the New York Press Club, John Swinton, former chief of Staff of the New York Times and the "Dean of his Profession" stated: (part extracted)
"If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of journalists in to destroy truth; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell this country and this race for their daily bread. We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
From my own experience, I know that there are countless journalists who could say that. Just consider what they said about Oliver Stone's film "JFK" and about my own book "JFK, the CIA, VIETNAM and the plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy."
Note: The source of this account is partly due to the fact that I was in Tehran at the time of the "Four Power" conference. I did fly the Chinese delegation there from Cairo, and we did meet Elliott Roosevelt en route.
The primary account is taken directly from page #17 of the February 9, 1986 issue of PARADE MAGAZINE.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Tony Pitman's subject (CIA's airlines and air operations) ~ most important.
All of the response which I am including below is taken from my book, "THE SECRET TEAM" or from the
CD-ROM that includes that book. I can provide him with either or both sources.
As the Focal Point Officer for CIA's aviation requirements, I worked directly with the men in charge of
these air units under CAT (earlier days) and AIR AMERICA). Almost all of their requirements were
provided by the Air Force or Navy. For example the P2V-7 was especially modified at Lockheed as a
NAVY contract, via U.S. Air Force requirement and operated by the Agency is people.
Civil Air Transport became one of the largest Commercial-type (As CIA cover) airlines in the world.
It had been created from WW II military resources of men and aircraft and later re-located in Taiwan
at a full maintenance base. The USA provided most other transport aircraft with an exception the HELIO,
small transport which was purchased by the CIA; but entirely supported- by the USAF. Air America was
chartered in Delaware with Board of Directors from among available Navy Admirals.
It was listed in Dun and Bradstreet.
I was involved in all of these things although the President of all of CIA's "Airlines" was a
civilian and an old friend from WW II days. I even obtained the aircraft that we used to fly the
Dalai Lama out of China when he was forced to flee that country in 1959.
(I met him in Washington during a lecture in 1959 and it was the first time he ever found out
how we really did that. We even dropped food daily to him and his small escape party).
What most people do not know is that, for one reason or another, the CIA operated over 100 air companies
under various cover, around the world. It was a huge company.
For example, CIA had over 4,000 employees at its airbase facilities in Thailand and the same or
more in Taiwan. Most of their units operated under civilian cover.
In some parts of the world, CIA operates regularly-scheduled airlines disguised as normal
commercial operations. Your comment about Laos is correct. It was a huge operation
and served as a base-for such operations as into China, Burma and other Asian destinations.
I even purchased a new type of aircraft for the CIA requirements because of its
'short take off and landing capability, which was designed at MIT.
Its President ways a former Harvard professor and I first learned about their development when
I was serving with the AF ROTC as a professor at Yale.
The air support that would have been used in the Bay of Pigs operation, if
that operation had not been cancelled--contrary to the specific orders of
President Kennedy--by McGeorge Bundy, was all provided by the Air Force.
I had many of those aircraft modified especially for that large, operation...as
it was planned. I was in contact with the CIA airbase in Nicaragua at l a.m.
of the morning when that operation was scheduled to take place.
The CIA commander there was shattered by that unexpected call.
Castro had only three small jet fighters left and the B-26's from Nicaragua were
scheduled to wipe them out at sunrise. Even though I phoned others in controlling
positions at that time, my calls did not cancel the Bundy call.
That was one of the few defeats the CIA suffered at the hands of its "supposed" sponsors. When required Air America/C.A.T. (and the many other names) covered Central and South America, as you correctly say. In fact as needed they covered the world. I set up an operating air base in Antarctica for the CIA when requested. Check the book and the CD-ROM and you'll have all of your answers.
If they are not all answered, let us hear from you again.
This note about "FILES" as a killer of JFK.
You ask about someone named "James Files" as a "shooter" on the Grassy Knoll."
Like so many other false starts, I have no faith in his story whatsoever.
Although he may have played some part of the "cover story" in Dallas.
It is another, in a long line "false leads" contrived to keep researchers busy.
I can not understand why all citizens of these United States do not understand
that the law requires that when there is a MURDER anywhere in the country
THERE MUST BE A TRIAL FOR MURDER IN THE STATE WHERE IT ALLEGEDLY TOOK PLACE.
The Warren Commission and all the other false fronts is a totally worthless
cover-story; as are other such facades.
All, of us who understand our law must demand that there be a trial in the
state of Texas for the murder of our President, John F. Kennedy.
What has been going on for the past 35 years is false and a cover-up.
Notice how every year there is another new book that finds "Oswald did it".
In 1963 I was working in the office of the Chairman of the Joint Staff.
Much of my work was close to the top of the Pentagon and of the White House.
Although I happened to be in New Zealand at the time of the murder,
it didn't take long to see that that murder was carefully planned and executed.
Aug 7, 1998 E-mail questions from Glenn T. Cressy.
His questions about a Col. Boris T. Pash took me longer to verify than I thought. I now have some of the material, and will have to let the rest go.
-About Col. Pash: I had heard his name, but doubt that I ever knew him...or at least knew him well. Finally I have been able to get 3 copies of the Pentagon telephone book of that period. PASH is listed in the summer and fall 1963 books both under a personal listing and as-being assigned to the General support and Equipment Branch of the Foreign Science and Technology Center. By the summer of 1965 that organization had been moved to the Munitions Building in D.C.
-Although I have found five listings in official telephone books, in none of them is he listed as a "COLONEL." I was in the Pentagon for nine years and was always listed by my rank and job title. I am unable to support Cressy's listings for Pash although there is a Boris T. Pash in the 1963 books.
I find nothing about "Special Agent Gerald L. Beatson" anywhere. I have heard of the ALSOS Mission and what it was doing with reference to our Atomic Bomb and other Nuclear works in Germany.
From my long-time relationship with the CIA and other Special Operations organizations in our government I have no reason to believe that Pash "was in charge of the assassination squad in Dallas." That does not mean that your statement is not correct.
For some reason you write, "You were ensnared in this nuclear debacle when you were sent to Antarctica's nuclear power plant so that you would be removed from the coming assassination. "That could be true because I certainly knew enough about Special Operations by that time.
I believe that the true facts are that I had been working in support of The U.S. Antarctica Projects Office since at least 1959 to my retirement in 1964. I am enclosing a letter I had received, dated 2 July 1959 from the Deputy of that office by way of Gen. White, Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force. You may be interested in a Letter to the Editor, on the subject of this same trip to Antarctica. I was at the South Pole on Nov 8, 1963 and in Christchurch, New Zealand on Nov 23, 1963 (local N.Z. date and time) at the time I learned that JFK had been r killed.
Thank you for your notes. I'm sorry to have taken such a long time to respond but I felt I had to be accurate with my comments re "Col." Pash.
L. Fletcher Prouty
Colonel, USAF (Ret'd)
To David Henschel;
Reference to your request about Dorothry Kilgallen.
During my military service I recall no special information about her
other than what might have appeared in public sources.
L. Fletcher Prouty
To Jeff Orr
RE: The names of the ships used in the Bay of Pigs
operation that were named for the BUSH family.
I was asked to locate three transport vessels to support the Bay of Pigs landing.
I was able to get them and sent them to a U.S. Navy base in North Carolina where
they were prepared for that operation.
In the process they were painted and then given the names: HOUSTON, ZAPATA,and BARBABA.
The name Houston was where Bush's business was. Zapata was trhe name of his oil company.
Barbra was the name of his wife.
Whoever selected those names certainly knew Geroge Bush in 1960.
L. Fletcher Prouty